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Bloomberg On JFK Plot: 'Stop Worrying, Get A Life'

Seeded on Wed Jun 6, 2007 9:22 AM EDT
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While questions continue to arise about the alleged plot to blow up a fuel pipeline beneath JFK Airport and surrounding neighborhoods, some are questioning why New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg hasn't had a louder voice since the plot was foiled on Saturday.

On Monday, Bloomberg finally weighed in, but his response was not what some would have expected.

"There are lots of threats to you in the world. There's the threat of a heart attack for genetic reasons. You can't sit there and worry about everything. Get a life," he said.

That "What, me worry?" attitude pretty much sums up Bloomberg's advice to New Yorkers on the terror plot. As far as he was concerned, the professionals were on it, so New Yorkers shouldn't let it tax their brains.

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aktylor

Is this a dose of realism or insensitivity?

  • 11 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 9:29 AM EDT
rightofkhan

He isn't being insensitive. He's fully aware of the risk New York faces. This is from his tesitmony before the National Commission on Terrorism:

"New York City, which unfortunately is one of, if not the, primary potential targets of a terrorist attack, must be prepared both to prevent those attacks and to respond quickly and effectively if they occur."

If anyone is insensitive, it's those Republicans who downgraded NYC as less of a terrorist target than cheese factories in Wisconsin.

  • 20 votes
#1.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 10:13 AM EDT
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Flo Kalman

It's more of the daily evidence that he's running for the White House. This time, he's taking a thinly veiled stab at his potential presidential rival, Giuliani, who seems to be basing his campaign on getting the "fear" vote. Giuliani says that we're all going to blow up if we don't vote him into office... Bloomberg is responding by saying "get a life."

  • 31 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 9:41 AM EDT
Fran Kubelikska

While I definitely think Rudy's approach (elect a Democrat and expect another 9/11) is moronic -- and totally revisionist (who does he think was in charge on 9/11.01?) I'm worried that Bloomberg's words could haunt him. I agree that the city is safe -- and I'm glad that other people are worrying about this so that I don't have to -- but God forbid something should happen tomorow.

  • 16 votes
#2.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 9:49 AM EDT
middleground1

Fran, if something major happened, wouldn't it eclipse this? Does anyone remember what was on the news on September 10th, 2001?

  • 10 votes
#2.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 9:54 AM EDT
bainphysics

Even more important: Fran if I told you not to worry about getting hit by lightning tomorrow and then you got hit would that make me a bad guy for having said it?

  • 8 votes
#2.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 9:56 AM EDT
Jack Richter

Actually, I remember quite well. The big news was Bush's position on stem cell research.

  • 8 votes
#2.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 9:57 AM EDT
surendra

Fran if I told you not to worry about getting hit by lightning tomorrow and then you got hit would that make me a bad guy for having said it?

What if I told you it was OK to walk around a thunderstorm in cleets?

  • 6 votes
#2.5 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 10:03 AM EDT
jjerrypipe

What if I told you it was OK to walk around a thunderstorm in cleets?

Cleets are fine. It's the tin foil hat you have to leave at home.

  • 11 votes
#2.6 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 10:05 AM EDT
gpnavonod

Maybe if we stop seeding the political clouds -
We wouldn't have to worry as much about the thunderstorms
or the lighting strikes-

  • 11 votes
#2.7 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 12:43 PM EDT
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Jan Erlfinger

The whole JFK plot seems fishy to me. It started out as "full coverage breaking news" and as time went on, we learned that these people weren't anywhere near JFK, that they didn't have the money to carry this out, and that technically the "plot" was so flawed that it wouldn't have even worked.

  • 29 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 9:49 AM EDT
BettySanders

The whole JFK plot seems fishy to me.

Fishy indeed. At least it was a distraction from all the stuff George Bush doesn't want us to think about... like Libby, that homophobic Surgeon General nominee, the "New and Improved Cold War" that he's starting with Putin, etc.

Hmm...

  • 21 votes
#3.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 10:03 AM EDT
trex-138069

Jan: . . . and the only evidence they've got so far for the existence of the plot is the testimony of a jailhouse snitch with two drug convictions to his name.

Something tells me this is going to be a lot like the dramatic arrest of Jose Padilla. "We've got him! We foiled a dirty-bomber! We've saved you all from a horrible death by radiation poisoning!" (hyperventilate, hyperventilate, and conveniently bump Coleen Rowley's testimony off the front pages). Four years later, they can't even scare up enough evidence of the "dirty bomb" plot to charge him with it, but they've played a shell-game with him, shuttling him in and out of offshore prisons, in and out of the federal and state justice systems, and now they're trying to claim that the physical and psychological abuse he suffered during his years of unlawful detention should be inadmissible in court for reasons of "national security."

  • 18 votes
#3.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 10:55 AM EDT
Jan Erlfinger

Good point. Also, what was up with the CNN "Breaking News" element to this. Nothing happened and nothing was going to happen!

Don't tell me there's "breaking news" about a JFK explosion unless you've got footage of some guy sneaking up to a jet fuel tank with a flame-thrower strapped to his back.

  • 13 votes
#3.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 11:37 AM EDT
BrashMonkey

the "New and Improved Cold War" that he's starting with Putin, etc.

Shouldn't it be referred to as "Cold War 2.0"? It might help with marketing efforts.

  • 8 votes
#3.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 4:34 PM EDT
Creature Comfort

You're right about that. Especially since "2.0" has the connotation of human contact, networking and support. It could be "the Cold War that's Good For You!"

  • 6 votes
#3.5 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 4:52 PM EDT
Pamela Drew

Shouldn't it be referred to as "Cold War 2.0"? It might help with marketing efforts.

Outstanding tag, bravo for considering the full upside to the war marketing effort..

  • 5 votes
#3.6 - Thu Jun 7, 2007 12:43 AM EDT
BrashMonkey

Outstanding tag, bravo for considering the full upside to the war marketing effort.

Uh oh, should I have wrapped my comment in sarcasm tags? I bristle at and break into hives with any association to the war marketing effort. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually did try some similar naming of this war effort with the intention of wrapping it in a pretty bow as they shove it down the U.S. public's throat. Actually...aren't they doing that already?

  • 3 votes
#3.7 - Thu Jun 7, 2007 2:34 AM EDT
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lecomte

As a New Yorker, I can tell you that this is realism, not insensitivity. Living here, if we had to worry extensively about each possible threat, we would never leave our apartments/shelters/slick Upper East Side condos.

Bloomberg had the typical NY'er reaction - it's done, it's over, people somewhere are taking care of it (as the arrests prove), move on.

  • 23 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 10:13 AM EDT
rightofkhan

Well put, lecomte. We in the city know the score. What would be insensitive is if he BS'd the public... which he did not.

  • 16 votes
#4.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 10:16 AM EDT
PolitiChris

This essentially casts him as the "Anti-Rudy" -- and what could be better than that?

  • 16 votes
#4.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 12:20 PM EDT
Dances With Younger Ladies

Bloomberg had the typical NY'er reaction - it's done, it's over, people somewhere are taking care of it (as the arrests prove), move on.

I think this attitude will actually play well in the heartland... if he runs for prez.

  • 10 votes
#4.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 12:28 PM EDT
Matt Schwartz

I think this attitude will actually play well in the heartland... if he runs for prez.

Seems from the past that "the heartland" prefers fear mongering. New Yorkers like myself prefer the straight talk. Tell me what's up, no fluff, do what you gotta do, and let's move on. But the further from the oceans people live, the more they seem to like the BS.

  • 10 votes
#4.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 1:00 PM EDT
aktylor

But the further from the oceans people live, the more they seem to like the BS.

Is it that they like the BS or is it that it just gets their attention. I've spent a little time in the Midwest and people I met seemed to prefer straight talk. Unfortunately, it wasn't being served up very often.

  • 9 votes
#4.5 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 1:16 PM EDT
lecomte

An interesting question. It sometimes seems like the heartland is more fearful of things like this than those of us near the epicentre. It could be that those in the cities have become somewhat immune, or that those in the heartland are simply trying to connect with something that's important to them, but outside of their direct experience.

Frankly, it's probably a combination of the two.

  • 7 votes
#4.6 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 2:19 PM EDT
Anthony Gripps

A combination does make the most sense.

  • 4 votes
#4.7 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 4:14 PM EDT
Pamela Drew

We lived in the Midwest long enough so all my kids were born there and two made it to school. Folks there are just more honest and trusting than we coastal types. When you move in they bring a casserole and ask about your family and believe what you say. On the East coast they want to know about your career status and assets and in the Northwest they want to know what you do to be happy. The heartland will turn eventually and go for the truth, they just don't get the exposure, they're the ones most betrayed by the Bush Regime.

  • 6 votes
#4.8 - Thu Jun 7, 2007 12:49 AM EDT
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rumplestilskin-152198

Quite refreshing I think after all of the dark drudgery of the fear mongers who are making a living off of terrorism. I read where you have a 4 times greater chance of getting hit by lightning than being killed in a terrorist plot. Too bad George Bush doesn't spend more time preventing lightning strikes than protecting the world from terrorism. Imagine how much better off we would all be. This plot was dramatically enhanced by the fear mongers. And glory be, none of them were from Iraq.

    Reply#5 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 10:35 AM EDT
    rumplestilskin-152198

    Quite refreshing I think after all of the dark drudgery of the fear mongers who are making a living off of terrorism. I read where you have a 4 times greater chance of getting hit by lightning than being killed in a terrorist plot. Too bad George Bush doesn't spend more time preventing lightning strikes than protecting the world from terrorism. Imagine how much better off we would all be. This plot was dramatically enhanced by the fear mongers. And glory be, none of them were from Iraq.

    • 19 votes
    Reply#6 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 10:46 AM EDT
    rightofkhan

    Rumple, I like your thinking! We should permanently attach a lightening rod to George Bush's head!

    • 17 votes
    #6.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 11:40 AM EDT
    PolitiChris

    Or a tinfoil hat!

    • 15 votes
    #6.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 12:21 PM EDT
    trex-138069

    Nah, worrying about the climate is for nerdy weenies like Ozone Man Al. Real men who wear flight suits don't care about no steeenkin' storms except when they destroy the luxury country estates of their buddies like Trent Lott. As for the poor Black people left to drown in New Orleans, or the small island countries in the Pacific that will probably have to evacuate their populations before rising sea levels put them under water, who cares about losers?

    • 10 votes
    #6.3 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 1:43 PM EDT
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    Pamela Drew

    "There are lots of threats to you in the world. There's the threat of a heart attack for genetic reasons. You can't sit there and worry about everything. Get a life," he said.

    I love Mike Bloomberg and appreciate the sanity he brings to the Chicken Little War profiteers Spin Show. I'm clipping this to my column so my similarly biased friends can enjoy it too. Great find, made my day, thanks!! :~)

    • 23 votes
    Reply#7 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 12:14 PM EDT
    aktylor

    Thanks, Pamela!

    • 5 votes
    #7.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 4:54 PM EDT
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    Learn Piano

    "There are lots of threats to you in the world. There's the threat of a heart attack for genetic reasons. You can't sit there and worry about everything. Get a life," he said.

    Thank Goodness someone's making sense. For crying out loud, we PAY people to worry about these things so we can do everything else that needs to get done. It's Rudy, Rove, Cheney and Bush who want you constantly shaking in your boots. And for what? Good going, Mikey!

    • 16 votes
    Reply#8 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 12:38 PM EDT
    Andy R Andy

    Piano, I live in New York and I've always HATED those, "If you see something, say something" posters. Pointless fear mongering.

    • 15 votes
    #8.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 12:53 PM EDT
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    gpnavonod

    Rumple, I like your thinking! We should permanently attach a lightening rod to George Bush's head!

    7!#6.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 11:40 AM EDT PolitiChris Or a tinfoil hat!

    People like you really annoy me !
    7 years of payments an you just figured out how to 'jump start' this "White House Pinto"

    ok ! I forgive you-
    he has been proven to be unsafe at 'any' speed

    • 6 votes
    Reply#9 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 1:16 PM EDT
    PolitiChris

    People like you really annoy me !
    7 years of payments an you just figured out how to 'jump start' this "White House Pinto"

    ok ! I forgive you- he has been proven to be unsafe at 'any' speed

    Sorry I don't know what you're talking about. If you think I've only recently discovered that Bush is crap, sorry but I knew it all along.

    • 8 votes
    #9.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 1:42 PM EDT
    gpnavonod

    Sorry I don't know what you're talking about. If you think I've only recently discovered that Bush is crap, sorry but I knew it all along.

    ???? I'm hoping you took that with the humor I prescribed on the bottle?

    • 2 votes
    #9.2 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 7:52 PM EDT
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    jmhassell21

    So much for him running for President.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#10 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 1:27 PM EDT
    Tania Meredith

    So much for him running for President.

    I disagree, jm. Yes, if he runs, the Repubs will try to make the most of this, saying he's soft. But you know why that spin works? Because Democrats back down at any provocation! If they only called the Repubs out on their s**t then we could have a real dialog.

    Not only will Bloomberg not be afraid to call them out, he'll have his hefty, excellent record as a Republican mayor of the biggest (and Democratic) city in the US to back him up.

    • 15 votes
    #10.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 1:35 PM EDT
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    JoulesBeef

    he's pretty smart, while there are still a lot of sheeple out there, many of us are not only sick of people trying to scare us, but downright upset with it.
    Quit with the elect a dem, your neighborhood gets nuked BS
    at the very least be honest with your diffferences, and perhaps we would think the dems would not be the best choice, but when you come out with the stupid commericals, it just drives logical people away.

    • 16 votes
    Reply#11 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 1:46 PM EDT
    beapluss

    I love that term "sheeple"!

    Never heard that one until now. And you're right - be honest with your difference. It's OK, PEOPLE! Voters are grown-ups. We know that nobody can be everybody to everyone.

    • 11 votes
    #11.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 2:29 PM EDT
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    iliaskount

    Even though downgrading a terrorist threat seems as a good policy option in order to keep public social cohesion, I have never trusted politicians. There is always an ulterior motive behind almost every statement. New York has suffered the application of the worst terrorist plot of our times.
    I believe that Mr. Bloomberg should be more thougthful and careful when it comes to terrorism and NY.
    Sometimes, I think that Bloomberg acts as a counterpart of Rudy. Sensitive Guilliani Vs. Realist Bloomberg.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#12 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 1:58 PM EDT
    Walter Smith

    I'm not one to trust politicians either, but kudos to Bloomberg for eschewing using this event for political gain. He's not a counterpart to Rudy so much as his opposite. Rudy thinks that if he's not in charge, the world will go to hell.

    Go Mike!

    • 10 votes
    #12.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 2:34 PM EDT
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    rumplestilskin-152198

    Funny how the fear mongering seems to work best on the red state right wing moral group, which is the area that is least suseptible to a terrorist plot. The people seeing thru this nonsensical fear mongering are often from the areas most suseptible. They still know that the chances of something happening to an individual are less than being struck by lightening.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#13 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 4:00 PM EDT
    Anthony Gripps

    That's an interesting observation ... and if you think about it, why is that? It's the right wing red states that pose the biggest threat to with regard to "exporting our imperialist ideology" ... like, why attack New York when the people who are going to hunt you down are all in Alabama?

    • 7 votes
    #13.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 4:12 PM EDT
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    biggerthebetter

    I totally get what he's driving at. In other words, don't spend your life worrying about and anticipating death. What's the point? You don't know when it will happen, and you just ruin your life by worrying.

    If a terrorist attack is going to happen, it's going to happen whether you worry about it all day every day for the rest of your life.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#14 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 7:26 PM EDT
    trex-138069

    See Nassim Nicholas Taleb's book The Black Swan. http://www.amazon.com/Black-Swan-Impact-Highly-Improbable/dp/1400063515/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-4799190-0493266?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1181179097&sr=1-1

    • 4 votes
    #14.1 - Wed Jun 6, 2007 9:19 PM EDT
    jjerrypipe

    Excellent recommendation, trex

    • 3 votes
    #14.2 - Thu Jun 7, 2007 9:28 AM EDT
    paxilnation

    The same author's book on randomness is fantastic, too. It could change your life. Should be required reading.

    • 2 votes
    #14.3 - Thu Jun 7, 2007 9:31 AM EDT
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    jblossom

    Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU Mike Bloomberg! You don't have a prayer of becoming President but you're the REAL "America's Mayor."

    I was standing over the garage of the World Trade Center when it was bombed in 1993 and I watched my friends and colleagues die on 9/11. Terror happens. But so does life. Leave terror to the professionals and GET A LIFE. Anything else is just fearmongering.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#15 - Thu Jun 7, 2007 12:47 AM EDT
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